Baru Bian: Thank you Tuan Speaker. By this motion, Tuan
Speaker, I 
seek leave to introduce a private members Bill in this
august House. The title of the 
propose Bill may be cited as the Land Code (Amendment
Bill 2014). Amendment of 
Section 2(1), Section 2 of the Land Code Cap 1958
edition, hereafter referred to as 
(a) By adding immediately after the sub-section A of the
definition of native 
custody land, the following due sub-section (aa). (aa) sub-definition
under 
sub-section A shall include cleared obliged farm land
(Temuda or its 
equivalent) reserve forest area (Pulau Galau obliged
Pulau or its 
equivalent) and terminal land obliged territory domain
(Pemakai Menua or 
its equivalent); and 
b) By adding immediately after the definition of native
custody land the 
following new definition :- 
Native right means right described in the Section 7a
Sub-clause 1 created 
by or belong to native over land not issued with the
document title. 
Amendment of Section 5(2). Section 5 of the code is
amended as 
follows:- 
(i) By adding immediately after the word Minister, the
last line of sub-
section A the words “after free prior and inform
consultation have
been obtained from any person whose native custody over
right over 
said land are affected and called.” 
New section 7a (3) the code is amended by adding
immediately after Section 7 the 
following section 7a. Transfer etc of custody rights over
land. 7(a)(1) the following 
are rights belonging to a native over any land in respect
of which no document of title 
has been issued:- 
(a) rights fully law created pursued Section 5 sub-clause
1 or sub-clause 2, 
(b) rights and privileges over any land declared as
native communal reserved 
under Section 6 sub-clause 1; 
(c) rights to kampung reserved; 
(d) native custody land as define under Section 2 under
the definition of 
native custody land sub-section (aa). 
(2) Any rights described in sub-section 1 may be
transferred or transmitted to or 
inherited or required by any native; 
(3) The transfer transmission inheritance or requisition
native rights over land under 
sub-section 1 shall in accordance with the system of
personal law applicable to the 
community to which the native belong and shall be
regulated by rules made under 
Section 213. I beg to move, Tuan Speaker. 
Tuan Speaker: Seconded? Kota Sentosa. 
Tuan Speaker: Ahli-Ahli Yang Berhormat.  I hereby give my ruling.
 Ground One.
By granting leave for the motion to proceed and its approval thereof will incur an
By granting leave for the motion to proceed and its approval thereof will incur an
astronomical sum of money to be paid in terms of
compensation to the existing 
claims pending hearing in court. 
Standing Order 23 (5) “ A motion which directly or indirectly
involves any such grant, charge, expenditure, release, remission or  compensation, as mentioned in Paragraph (4)(A)
to (D) shall be treated as seeking  grant,
expenditure, release, remission or compensation unless the said Minister 
signifies in writing that it does not go beyond what is
incidental only and not as of a substantial nature having regard to the
purposes of the motion”.
Erskine May Parliamentary practice 24th  edition page 537 “ A private member 
may not move or leave to bring in a Bill which the main
object is to create a charge 
by way of taxation or expenditure. 
 Ground Two.
Standing Order (20) (2) (g) “ Every question shall not be so 
drafted as to be likely to prejudice a case under or
pending trial before a Court of 
Law, an arbitrator or Commission of Inquiry or be asked
on any matter which is sub 
judice” bearing in mind that there are numerous cases
pending in court in relation to 
the private members Bill therefore, impliedly seeking a
fast solution to the on going 
legal cases that are still pending and enhance a further
claims therefore it is a sub 
judice. 
 Erskine May Page
396, “the house resolve that no matter awaiting un 
jurisdiction in a court of law including a coroner‟s
court for a fatal accident injury 
should be brought before it by a motion or otherwise”. 
 Ground Three, the
motion provides the definition of Pulau Galau and Pemakai 
Menua based on interpretation of the court in the case of
Madihi Salleh versus 
Superintendent of Land & Survey Miri and another but
the contention of the State 
Government is that in that case the plaintiff Madihi
Salleh was a Malay and that 
therefore, not being an Iban, the NCR definition of Pulau
Galau and Pemakai Menua 
does not apply.
The decision of the court in the case of Nur ak Gawan
versus Superitendent of Land & Survey Bintulu and another, the
interpretation of Pulau Galau and Pemakai Menua did not reach the affect court
namely the Federal Court. 
Whatever interpretation and definition the court may give
on Pulau Galau and 
Pemakai Menua, the Court does not have the power to
legislate this definition. It is a 
well established principle of law that the power to
legislate lies in Parliament. It is 
Parliament that legislate the law. This Bill is premature
because the State Government is committed to come up with legislation that will
give definition to Pulau Galau and Pemakai Menua. This is within purview and
power of Parliament. 
The State Government has declared its intention to table
a propose legislation on the 
relevant amendment of the Land Court. This propose legislation
has a better chance 
to see the light of day because it will be table by the
Government of the day that 
command more than two third majority to approve the Bill.
 Ground 4. Standing
Order 82 “No member shall appear before the Dewan, or 
any Committee thereof, in any capacity for which he is to
receive a fee or reward, or 
as an advocate for any party”. 
 Section 31(1)
Dewan Undangan Negeri Privileges Empowers Ordinance “ No 
member shall in the Dewan or any Committee without leave
of the Speaker or 
Chairman of the Committee raised articulate or solicit
support from other members 
for any matter or proposal or scheme on behalf of any
client or person for which he 
act in a professional capacity or reward in monetary or
in any other form”. 
 Erskine May Page
80, Declaration of interest in debate. “ In a debate, a 
member is required to declare any relevant particularly
interest of benefit of whatever 
nature, whether direct or indirect that he may have or
may be expecting to have.
Just, thus the rule relating to declaration of interest
is broader in scope than the rules 
relating to legislation in requiring declaration of both
relevant past interest and 
relevant interest which the member maybe expecting to
have in the future. 
It is the responsibility of the member having regard to
the rule of the house to judge whether 
a financial interest is sufficiently relevant to require
a declaration. The basic test of 
relevance is similar to that for registration that a
financial interest should be declared 
if it might reasonably be thought by others to influence
the members‟ speech. 
 Page 81,
Declaration of other proceedings of the house. Declaration of relevant interest
is required on order paper when taking any written notice including (i)
questions (ii) early day motion and amendment to them or any name in support  of such motion and amendment (iii) a notice of
motion for leave to introduce a 10 minute rule and so forth. A motion for
presentation of Bill with those grounds now, I  would like the question to be put to vote for
the House to decide whether to give 
leave for the motion to proceed. 
 Standing Order 45
(3) “ Leave being granted on a question put and carried, the 
Bill should be deemed to have been read the first time
and ordered to be printed and 
a copy of the Bill shall be delivered to the Secretary”.
The Question before the 
Dewan is that the motion on application for leave to
introduce a private members Bill 
in the Order Paper in the name of the Ahli Yang Berhormat
for Ba‟ Kelalan be 
approved. 
Question put to vote 
Tuan Speaker: Members who want the leave be granted and
the motion to proceed 
for are 14. Members against the leave should not be given
are 52. Motion is 
therefore, dismissed.
 
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